I don’t know if you guys remember but I posted a couple of months ago that the relationship between Buakaw’s camp and K-1 were on the rocks. Obviously I don’t know the full details but in comes from a very credible source.
I hadn’t really been thinking about it, but then I saw proposed match up between Souwer and Yodsanklai at Slamm in March. I know a lot of things can happen between now and then, but my gut says it’s going to happen.
I’m pretty sure the FEG and Slamm aren’t officially affiliated. I know Yod, had the superfight at MAX but is this there way of getting him in front of the MAX audience? Let’s be clear, there isn’t enough room for both Buakaw and Yod in MAX…
What do you think? Yodsanklai in and Buakaw out? oh and if the match does materialize…
Loading ...On a side not I’m definitely going to Slamm this year. I’ve always wanted to go, since I’ll be in London it’ll be like heading to LA or Vegas for the weekend. Any of you guys know how I can swing a press pass?
48 responses so far ↓
1 a5yfk // Dec 13, 2007 at 7:04 am
Yeah nop its only an hours flight.
Any ideas as to when this is going to take place?
Would love to go back to the netherlands to watch some quality thai-boxing!!!
2 nopstar // Dec 13, 2007 at 7:56 am
I think it’s March 2nd. Hopefully I can get some sort of press pass, get some interviews.
I’m definitely going. You in the UK?
3 Gusnark // Dec 13, 2007 at 9:52 am
“Yodsanklai in and Buakaw out?”
If Buakaw goes out, K-1 will not allow another top Thai fighter in for some time. They must not endanger the Japanese fighters. This is really how I see K-1 management.
However, arguing about Yodsanklai in and Buakaw out really has no point.
Seeing Yod against Souwer would be fantastic. I see Yod winning this. I think he’s just too strong for Andy.
4 nopstar // Dec 13, 2007 at 10:27 am
Gusnark-
I agree I think Yod, would take Andy. I think it would be by points though… Yod style is suited for K-1… so there isn’t a great deal of adjustment.
5 Tong Po // Dec 13, 2007 at 10:50 am
I dare say that Yod might even KO Souwer.
6 Ian // Dec 13, 2007 at 10:59 am
Well if Yod beats MAX’s champion, wouldn’t they pretty much be obligated to let him into the eliminations in the spring? In which case, I think they would instantly match him with Buakaw so only one thai will move on. However, it’s still a weird theory because Buakaw would make so much more money just with his face. Too many of his fans are women.
7 Stack // Dec 13, 2007 at 12:34 pm
It’s K-1. K-1 is not obligated to anything they don’t want to do.
8 yknocka // Dec 13, 2007 at 12:51 pm
btw- that has to be one of the best muay thai event posters i’ve seen in a while.
9 Tong Po // Dec 13, 2007 at 1:42 pm
I agree with yknocka- a lot of top guys featured in this event. Too bad Buakaw is not in it.
10 alekos87 // Dec 13, 2007 at 4:03 pm
yod will own his hole with a left kick
11 Gusnark // Dec 13, 2007 at 10:47 pm
Ian,
“Well if Yod beats MAX’s champion, wouldn’t they pretty much be obligated to let him into the eliminations in the spring?”
Nice observation, but I disagree. Otherwise we would already see many thai fighters in K-1 ring. Imagine Yod, Attachai, Samranchai in K-1. lol
“hey would instantly match him with Buakaw”
Now, that would be a dream fight we all long for, aren’t we.
12 Spydaman // Dec 13, 2007 at 11:22 pm
Yo…are u tellin me that Yod, Sanchai, Anuwat and Lamsonkgram are goin to be fighting in that even???…WOW…talkin about a star studed event.
13 a5yfk // Dec 14, 2007 at 4:39 am
yes nop i’m in the UK, thats wicked if you can get hold of press passes, you da man!!!
Have you already got tickets for this event?
14 Ian // Dec 14, 2007 at 10:00 am
None of the other thais have even been given the chance to prove themselves like Yod has been. That’s what I mean. Of course K-1 doesn’t want a bunch of thais dominating, and so they don’t invite them to try. In Yod’s case however, his foot will already be through the door. It would just seem really bad if he beats Souwer and then is sent home without a chance in the eliminations.
15 Stack // Dec 14, 2007 at 10:09 am
Goes to show K-1 doesn’t always make the matchups happen that fans want to see. Props to all at Slamm for making dream matches actually happen.
16 Tong Po // Dec 14, 2007 at 10:38 am
“yod will own his hole with a left kick”
I just love that comment!
17 Gusnark // Dec 14, 2007 at 4:40 pm
In Slamm IV, who is gonna fight Spong?
Ian, well Villaume ready had 2 fights in K-1, won both, and is a top fighter. But still, we didn’t see him in K-1 elimination. K-1 administration longs for Japanese fighters winning in front of Japanese audience.
18 Ian // Dec 14, 2007 at 6:48 pm
Well then I suppose it’s hopeless
19 Anonymous // Dec 14, 2007 at 10:12 pm
All I know is I’m watching some Ninjitsu guys on Human Weapon right now that could take all 3 of these guys, at once,…eeeeasy.
Currently, they are showing the proper way to throw ninja stars. I know Nop is re-living his childhood with a tear in his eye right now.
20 SLAYER // Dec 14, 2007 at 10:13 pm
Oops, that’s smartass comment above was me.
21 Stack // Dec 14, 2007 at 11:02 pm
“Well then I suppose it’s hopeless”
Not at all. you guys need to vote with your attentions. Pay attention to Muay Thai done properly. Even without your money directly involved supporting Muay Thai, real Muay Thai or even meaningful matches makes sense.
K-1 one will never benefit from me even peripherally. The Slamm Team should be supported for making matches happen that people always talk about.
That said Songcahi is booking fat slobs (heavy weights) through his S-1 brand. Even MMA and the response seems luke warm at best.
22 Pede // Dec 17, 2007 at 10:21 am
I Think Yod with a Ko but thats just wishfull thinking, fights are hard to predict as usual.
23 Pede // Dec 17, 2007 at 10:23 am
If Buakaw is gone then how am i going to see him on eurosport or anywhere. Damn. But theres always slam i holland also on Eurosport. Lots of High Profile Thais, maybe Buakaw will join them there then.
24 Paul PP // Dec 18, 2007 at 7:19 pm
Well everyone knows Yods style is perfect for K1 and Buakaw is perfect of muay thai case settled.
25 nak rohp // Dec 20, 2007 at 9:35 am
wr can i get tickets for slamm?
26 colargol // Dec 24, 2007 at 1:10 am
The best thing K-1 can do for the japanese fighters and audiences right now is not keep ‘the other thai’ out but allow full knees. Masato? He is on his way out and the only world-beater the japanese have right now is Sato, a MT specialist who has been hurt badly by the silly 1-knee rule. Reinstituting the knees will propel Sato into belt contention, I am sure of it.
27 Gusnark // Dec 24, 2007 at 2:59 am
Sato is good but not as Buakaw, Masato, Souwer, Kraus, etc. No matter how they change the rules he has no chance against mentioned elite fighters.
Masato will fight at least 2 years and he’s greater then ever!
Does anyone know how and what is Buakaw doing now?
28 Anonymous // Dec 24, 2007 at 8:01 am
colargol, U make a lotta sense. I agree wit the knee rule. I also myself love clinching but it’s not for everybody so I guess leaving it out wouldn’t hurt much. Masato is on his way out, and Sato is hurt by the knee rule. I’m not sure he is Champion material yet….but he could definitely work his way there.
29 Spydaman // Dec 24, 2007 at 8:02 am
the prior statement was from me….lol.
30 colargol // Dec 24, 2007 at 11:59 pm
Sato isn’t as good as Masato? Under the current rules yes but if multiple knees in the clinch were allowed, he would kick some serious ass. Just look at the way he used to maul quality opponents before he came into MAX. And anyway, Masato cannot win another tourney and I believe he has said he doesn’t even want to try anymore. If this is true then he is no longer relevant. Sato IS the new japanese hope right now, regardless of the rules.
31 Gusnark // Dec 25, 2007 at 7:50 am
“The best thing K-1 can do for the japanese fighters and audiences right now is not keep ‘the other thai’ out but allow full knees.”
And what would be left for Japanese audience? Nothing. That’s why the K-1 management changed the rules and K-1 is after all a Japanese thing. I believe that the rules were changed on regard of Masato.
32 colargol // Dec 25, 2007 at 10:42 pm
I thought I was clear on this: Sato is what’s left. Masato has said he does not want to fight the tourney anymore. If that’s the case, K-1 can make sure he doesn’t fight a knee specialist until his inevitable 3rd attempt vs Souwer ..and retirement.
33 colargol // Dec 25, 2007 at 10:50 pm
Sato with multiple knees is a monster. I would pick him over Kraus, Zambidis, Drago, Kyshenko and even Souwer.. in other words: Sato under the old rules might be a more dangerous fighter than Masato and consequently have a better chance of taking the MAX title back to Japan. The only thing he does not have is the sex-appeal but then again, winners have an appeal all their own.
34 Pede // Dec 27, 2007 at 4:11 pm
But Sato always struggle with his weight, because he is a tall guy, I say he should grow some muscles and some power and try out the heavier weight class. Just a thought. But I would like to see if he could and would dominate Kyshenko or even Souwer, His size would make it hard for all those guys to reach him without getting Knee´ed bad. But he needs power in his other techniqes and the weight limit limits Sato´s power.
35 Spydaman // Dec 27, 2007 at 10:29 pm
Im not sure how we got stuck talkin about Sato in a Yod vs Souwer post but here’s my 2 cent. Pede, You’re comment about Sato goin up in class would make absolutely no sense in the fighting world. He’s the “big guy” for his weight class right now, but if u have ever watched him fight then u would notice that he’s not really a heavy hitter. So now, why would u tell him to bulk up and move up in weight so he could then become the “lil guy” in a higher weight class ??? That’s not how things are done, unless he has cleared everyone at the weightclass he is now ( Which he hasn’t yet come close to, in part because of the “no knee rule” in k1) then he needs to stay where he is.
36 Gusnark // Dec 28, 2007 at 3:25 am
Sato limited by K-1 rules? Never.
He was never a clinch guy and he uses pretty much the same fighting style as before the changes regarding K-1 rules were made.
We all know who really a clinch guy is and who really was limited by K-1 rules. Yep, Buakaw.
Colargol yes, Sato is all what is left. But he’s not an elite fighter and probably never will be. He’s good, but not as strong and as fast as the elite. And this goes for all Japanese fighters except Masato. They are simply not good.
37 spydaman // Dec 28, 2007 at 9:00 am
“He was never a clinch guy and he uses pretty much the same fighting style as before the changes regarding K-1 rules were made.”…ummm….If my memory serves me right, the “clinch rule’ was established in 2005 after Buakaw destroyed everything using that technique during the world max 2004….and If my memory serves me right again, Yoshiro’s first appearance in the World Max was the same year so if my memory did serve me right then u’re statement was completely false (However if I’m wrong don’t hesitate to prove it, I’ve been wrong b4)
“Colargol yes, Sato is all what is left. But he’s not an elite fighter and probably never will be.” All the fighters in K1 World Max are elite fighters.
“And this goes for ‘all’ Japanese fighters except Masato. They are simply not good.” Stereotype!!! and if they’re not good, I guess u can kick all of their asses then…oh…except for Masato….lol.
38 Gusnark // Dec 28, 2007 at 9:28 am
Spydaman.
Once again, Sato was never a clinch guy. That being said has nothing to do with K-1. His fighting style was pretty the same before entering K-1, watch clips on youtube, e.g.: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_YZIXLzJnh0
“All the fighters in K1 World Max are elite fighters.”
I disagree. He’s not an elite fighter as Buakaw, Masato, Kraus, Souwer… sorry, buddy, i don’t find Hayato an elite fighter also.
And yes, Japanese fighters aren’t that good. Thais and European fighters were always better and always will. You are probably Japanese… ohh, I can probably kick your ass then, lol.
Don’t be an ass, stop pointing and get laid or something.
Cheers
39 spydaman // Dec 28, 2007 at 9:59 am
I see!…So in ur prior statement, ALL Japanese fighters werent’ good, period…..but now since I’ve said that u were stereotyping you’re saying they’re not “THAT” good….lol…how convienient.
Sato won the K1 max Japan tournament 2 years in a row (’06,’07) but I guess that doesn’t qualify him as one of the best fighters in Japan, which in turns doesn’t qualify him as an “elite” fighter…but I guess that’s just a matter of opinion.
“You are probably Japanese”…I’m european
“ohh, I can probably kick your ass then, lol.” Anything is possible.
“Don’t be an ass” Maybe I was being a lil condescending….I admit it….but it was quite entertaining….lol
“stop pointing” No
“and get laid or something.” That’s tomorrow night’s plan.
When it all ends….it’s only still a matter of opinion…so this is where I end this discussion.
(Sorry for the sherdog episode, NOP!)
40 spydaman // Dec 28, 2007 at 10:02 am
Oh and Gusnark….Thanx for the friendly debate!
41 Gusnark // Dec 28, 2007 at 10:46 am
Spydaman, i don’t won’t to argue. I was just making an opinion. It’s true, I don’t find Japanese fighters as good as the ones mentioned.
Sato is ok, but he’s just a Japanese fighter. lol
Btw, ““and get laid or something.” That’s tomorrow night’s plan.”
I’ll drink to that. Cheers!
42 spydaman // Dec 28, 2007 at 10:51 am
“I’ll drink to that. Cheers!”….lol.
Thanx, buddy!!!
I LOVE MUAY THAIIIIII !!!!!!
43 Pede // Dec 28, 2007 at 12:56 pm
Spydaman, I agree that Sato never had any real power in his technique, but to really get that he would have to bulk up, train weights and of course speed training. Maybe he just cant get more power due to his weight wathcing. So I just mean he should be the strongest he can be even if it means moving up in the class, and he wouldnt be the little man if he really gained weight and muscle, and i dont care if it makes no sense in the fight world. Trying to stay below a limit all the time, has been proved over and over again, in the boxing world especially, not to be optimal. Mikkel Kessler who was world Champion in some fed, moved up after he lost his title because he was sick of the limitations his weight watching lift style brought him. Limitations such as fatigue, before and during fights.
44 colargol // Dec 28, 2007 at 4:46 pm
Gusnark, If you think Sato isn’t elite, your standards are too high. He’s beaten Kaolan, Chalmsak, Zambidis, Chapman, Diender.. (in impressive fashion) and he gave Souwer, Kraus all they could handle. He’s not among the top contenders for the belt right now because MAX rules allow ‘boxers’ to walk in on him with no fear of the clinch - it’s as simple as that.
45 colargol // Dec 28, 2007 at 4:50 pm
In MAX, most of the opposition consists of ‘kickboxer types’ who are not very comfortable in the clinch and who would not be so eager to work him on the inside the way they currently do if they risked getting clinched and kneed repeatedly.
It’s true: he isn’t a clinch fighter per se but he’s not ‘a kicker’ or ‘a boxer’ either is he? He’s an all-around fighter who breaks people down with a constant barrage of techniques ..and knees (in the clinch also) are a big part of his arsenal.
46 colargol // Dec 28, 2007 at 5:00 pm
Another thing about Sato is that he’s a cardio machine; that is a big part of what makes him dangerous under MT rules. He hasn’t managed to move past the first round of the tourney so far but unlike Masato, I’m betting he would get more and more dangerous in his second and third fights. I feel like Sato is so close to being a top contender now that the rule change would be just enough to put him there.
Ok, maybe I did derail the topic too much - I stop now!
47 Gusnark // Dec 29, 2007 at 4:25 am
I feel your sympathy for Sato.
Changing the rules will not help Sato. He’s good fighter, but not as good to become MAX champ.
“If you think Sato isn’t elite, your standards are too high.”
I will correct my statement. He’s an elite fighter but he’s not and probably will not be a top elite fighter.
48 nak rohp // Dec 29, 2007 at 6:03 am
were the hell do i get TICKEEEEEEEEEETTTTS!!!
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