For most of you who’ve been around Muay Thai long enough, you’ll know that it’s fairly important to have “conditioned shins”. To be honest I don’t ever think about it, since I’m not fighting professionally I’m not overly worried about shin on shin contact.
At our gym we have a bag packed densely with sand. A good kick to that bag and you’ll soon know if your shins need “conditioningâ€
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Here is a clip from HellFighter He shouldn’t be a stranger for those of you on the K-1 Fans forum. In the clip, he walks you through a traditional technique used in Thailand to develop and condition your shins. Many thanks to Hellfighter and “Saekson” for the info.
What techniques or exercises do you do for conditioning? I’d love to hear.


















28 responses so far ↓
1 Anonymous // Jan 24, 2007 at 8:02 am
You will need Methyl-Salicylate (found in liniments), heavy-bag/Thai pad, cold compress, 600 mg calcium + vitamin D supplements.
1. Apply Methyl-Salicylate generously to your shins and warm them up by going for a 20 min run. MS causes local vascodilation and good blood flow. You can also substitute with ditdajow.
2. Kick Thai Pads, or a banana bag till your shins (not the skin or muscle above it) are slightly sore. Doing this in the sun is recommended. (Promotes vitamin D production for efficient calcium absorption.) Approximately 10 minutes of hard kicking on a regular pad surface should be sufficient for a beginner. Use your judgement.
3. Sit down. Point your toes, flex your calves: repeat 10 times each leg. Apply more Methyl-Salicylate and massage the shins and surrounding muscles deeply. Attend to localised knots/bumps if you feel any and try to break them up. The blood carries calcium, protein and all the good stuff which actually thickens up the shins.
4. Repeat steps 2-3 at least 4 times a day.
5. Apply an ice pack to both shins for the next 20-30 minutes. Massage and apply ice-pack repeatedly for as often you wish upto the next 48 hours. Do not kick the bag for at least the next day.
5. Take a 600 mg Calcium + vitamin D supplement. Else, drink a lot of milk and water. Eat fish, chew its bones, eat them.
6. Having taken *at least* one day off, repeat all the steps above.
This technique is more than just a superficial numbing of the nerves. In a month or two, you should be left with *denser* shins. Also, spar moderately to get a feel for what striking with it feels like.
A word of warning: You could break your shins if you kick hard on a sharp surface. You could OD on calcium. You could get a sunburn from the sun. You could get a frostbite from the ice-packs. You could choke on fish-bones. You could develop a blood clot that travels to your heart and gives you a heart attack. So, use your good judgement and you’ll be on your way to devastating shins.
2 nopadon // Jan 24, 2007 at 9:10 am
Anonymous-
Damn great info! Thanks for the contribution. I’ll watch out for the fish bones!
3 Tong Po // Jan 24, 2007 at 5:45 pm
Not sure if any of that stuff is really all that necessary if you spar and kick the bags hard enough…however, it probably couldn’t hurt.
4 Anonymous // Jan 24, 2007 at 8:42 pm
Tong Po: It’s good to kick the pads and spar a lot. But its also necessary to make sure the shins are getting enough material to repair themselves with. That is the principle of hardening. Also, it hurts a lot of less if you have a good blood flow going. Its also a way of avoiding blood clots (in the knees usually) that can travel to your heart and fatally block essential vessels in later years.
5 Wade WIllet // Jan 25, 2007 at 12:58 pm
I think Saekson thought this was funny so he uploaded it on youtube. Adding calcium and vitamins to you diet is mandatory for proper bone health.
My contribution: Do heavy weight squats and cleans. To support stronger legs your bones get stronger as well.
6 ricky // Jan 27, 2007 at 4:05 pm
we wrapped a wavemaster in hemp rope. the rope penetrates the skin better. its impoortant not to kick hard, only about 30% to start off with. your shins should look sun burnt the following day. only kick until your red, and never let the skin break. stage two is a rope soaked in water, and 3 is a rope soaked in alcohol. each stage the rope getts a bit thicker and penetrates better. by stage three you should be able to kick hard. resist “testing” the condition of your shins by kicking walls, posts, poles, etc. it will only set you back, since you have to wait for the bruising to go away to continue. the hair on your shins will start to leave also.
7 nopadon // Feb 6, 2007 at 10:14 am
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8 Petteri // Mar 23, 2007 at 5:41 pm
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9 Jmtii77 // May 27, 2007 at 3:28 am
Thai liniment! then i start on the HARD bag (filled with sand & shredded rubber) i kick the bag lightly at first until the skin nerves start to desensitize (about 20 times) then start turning up the power! as time goes on (at about 50) i’m kicking the bag at full power until the 3 minute round is up then i re-apply liniment and go with the other leg. i do this every day before training even starts. i’ve found that a good way to get deep bruises and visible blood clots out of the legs is to roll a coke bottle or sugar jar in the shins while you are chillin’ watchin the fights! i, seriously, had a bruise on my lower shin for 2 years and couldn’t figure out how the hell to get rid of it, after 1 week of rolling a glass coke bottle on it, it got rid of it and the pain that went with it! i also do alot of massage on my shins when i get home, with liniment, if i feel any pain in them. it promotes blood flow and keeps the blood from clotting and creating deep painful shit that sticks around forever! i’ve actually been doing it this weekend because my sparring partner jacked my shin with a nice knee check and i could barely walk after practice and now it’s fine! it’s baisically what the thais do, liniment, condition on bags & pads, more liniment & massage. just take care of your small injuries to your shins and it will make them stronger! another thing is the road work!!! it increases the bone density in your entire leg and all of those little injuries that you have taken care of will calcify and create a more dense shin altogether! i think that roadwork is one of the most overlooked aspects of shin conditioning. yeah, it’s not gonna kill the nerve endings but it will make your shin bones much more dense!
10 TONG PO#2 // Oct 23, 2007 at 2:56 pm
WOw its amazing to actually know people who remember the name tong po, but then again, i wouldnt doubt it, they problably saw the movie Kickboxer and came in here to see how to strengthen Shins, roll a wooden broomstick pole up and down to kill nerves (will not make bones stronger but will take away pain)
11 alex // Oct 29, 2007 at 9:23 pm
i kicked heaps of shit and now my shin feels bruised and the bone is gone down and feels weak, i get pains in it wen i kick the heavy bag i went to the doctor and 2 physios and they sed there was nothing rong with it maybe just intense bruising? i been like this for 6 months now and i still cant kick the heavy bag without getting a pericing pain thru my shin? any suggestions pplz ??
12 nasz // Mar 8, 2008 at 6:39 am
heyy,
im from malaysia.my shins got a bruises and still wont show any sign of wellness.
can you give me tips to get well soon.i wanna fight back normally without the pain.
pls?:(
13 alex // Mar 8, 2008 at 6:41 am
ice + thai oil rubbing in shin try that
14 nasz // Mar 8, 2008 at 6:44 am
thx alot.but it hurts ayte?
btw,i really appriciate it.THX:)
ure nice.umm,how to apply it?
15 alex // Mar 8, 2008 at 6:45 am
have u got msn ?
16 nasz // Mar 8, 2008 at 6:49 am
sadly,no.
but i have yahoo messenger:)
17 alex // Mar 8, 2008 at 6:50 am
what did u actualy do to ur shin first, i kicked a pole and now its fucked
18 nasz // Mar 8, 2008 at 6:53 am
my friend hit it with vacuum steel.
you know the one tht people hold when they vacuum their house.
its steel ok.and it hurts
19 alex // Mar 8, 2008 at 6:53 am
how many times did u hit it with the steel
20 nasz // Mar 8, 2008 at 6:56 am
well,to be true.they are not my friends.they’re ganster in school who wanna beat the hell up of me.
ive been hit all over the body and they hit my shins as well.many times.i mean many many times
21 alex // Mar 8, 2008 at 6:58 am
hmmm i think they are fucked. there is a chance they will heal but metal on shin is very bad trust me i know they could be fuckd for life, i suggest either learn BJJ or BOXING or go into MMA if at least ur rear shin is ok. then see wat happens down the track but thers a good chance there gone.
22 nasz // Mar 8, 2008 at 7:16 am
ok.can i chat with u personally?
23 nasz // Mar 8, 2008 at 7:23 am
i wanna be a fighter when i grow up.if my shin is fucked up.i dunno what else to do:(
24 Gio // Mar 8, 2008 at 7:58 am
if your shin is fucked up properly, then you’re gonna have to go into boxing, or a low-contact martial art.
25 alex // Mar 8, 2008 at 8:07 pm
my left shin is fucked but i can stil fight in MMA because the striking is differnet , less kicking and checking compared to muay thai fighting, if you want to chat personaly get msn and add me bum_scrag@hotmail.com
26 Gumby // Mar 17, 2008 at 5:43 pm
A good technique I’ve learned is to take an empty beer bottle put a little oil on it and than rub the bottle up and down your legs. This will not strengthen your bones but it will kill the nerve endings which will eliminate pain caused by shin-on-shin contact.
27 jd // Apr 4, 2008 at 3:18 pm
Best shin conditioning i have used is a regular heavy bag with rouch sand at the bottom, kikc that to start till red or somewhat sore not totally were you cant walk know your limits it takes a good while to condition you shins like building muscle takes time then you can graduate remove some cloth from the bag or pull it our completely and get green bamboo shoots soak them in water to soften them up line the bottom of the bag with them around the bottom and bottom also and repack the bag with the filling start out softly with this method for a few weeks after you get the stamina and less pain to kick it this way your good to go consistency always pays off
28 Tommy // Apr 4, 2008 at 8:53 pm
@Gumby
“A good technique I’ve learned is to take an empty beer bottle put a little oil on it and than rub the bottle up and down your legs. This will not strengthen your bones but it will kill the nerve endings which will eliminate pain caused by shin-on-shin contact.”
I’ve heard that technique would cause pressure fractures, so something like that.
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