Comments on: mmm… liver

By: Tibun

Tibun — Tue, 02 Dec 2008 01:49:40 +0000

I completely agree with stack even though i do sense a very stinging bitterness in his typing. Personally, i just accept MMA for what it is and Muay Thai as well.

By: Stack

Stack — Sat, 22 Nov 2008 10:15:18 +0000

Most guys that talk about liver shots in MMA guys are people who generally don’t know what they’re talking about and haven’t been hit with one properly.

Also Nop is spot on with the ‘Thai Kick’. Could not have phrased it better.

I cringe every time I hear anyone invoking that term. The general applicable fallacy is that MMA people train everything and therefore are good at everything which is why of course they fight for significantly less money than true elite atheletes of other sports. But hey at least someone is believing their own hype.

It’d be more laughable than it already is but the people that go around touting the ‘liver punch’ and ‘Thai kick’ genuinely believe they are good at those 2 particular techniques and almost invariably – they are not. It goes even beyond being completely semantically off.

It doesn’t matter which random ‘kru’ (who have never had a fight at any meaningful level ever) they train with or which grandmaster they deem worthy of sucking up too.

The goods are in the ring. If anyone wants the goods go and get them and than perhaps some true gravity can be applied to discussions of which technique is meaningful tactically. Because one will have actually used them against a target that’s dangerous and hits back.

By: MuayThaiMex

MuayThaiMex — Fri, 21 Nov 2008 20:47:37 +0000

djmattyd: i must agree with you. I’ve dropped a few people with a teep to the liver and i really wasnt nor am I a douchebag IMO. lol

By: djmattyd

djmattyd — Fri, 21 Nov 2008 01:08:12 +0000

I am also a big fan of teep and side kicks to the liver.

By: nopstar

nopstar — Thu, 20 Nov 2008 22:16:52 +0000

judasz-

hahahah fing hell man! I guess that’s one way to find out!

By: MuayThaiMex

MuayThaiMex — Thu, 20 Nov 2008 21:10:06 +0000

I love me a left hook to the liver just like Chavez… Funny you should write about it because I was just practicing that on Tuesday night while sparring. I usually enjoy throwing the inside leg kick to counter the 1-2 but the left kick makes people really think..

By: Frank

Frank — Thu, 20 Nov 2008 20:43:17 +0000

I’m suprised that more gyms don’t teach liver shots. They’re truly disabling, and is a very different pain than a hard cut kick.

By: Chok Dee

Chok Dee — Thu, 20 Nov 2008 20:36:09 +0000

Hey, cool topic! I’ve heard a lot about the dangerous liver-shots but never practised it, tough. This “science”-thing was cool hehe, enjoyed that.

By: Judasz

Judasz — Thu, 20 Nov 2008 19:55:10 +0000

oh man.. I just punched myself to check the liver and now I’m dying omg.. s.o.s liver shots hurts.. really bad..

By: xamarceaux

xamarceaux — Thu, 20 Nov 2008 15:44:27 +0000

I have about 3 or 4 anatomy book’s, and one DVD. Did you know, the cartilage in your knee’s can resist up to 14,000 lbs of pressure? Intense. Anyway, when I trained Muay Thai at ‘One Kick’s’ in Las Vegas, NV, we did a lot of training on liver shot’s. We’d do a drill on the bag that went: left hook, right hook, left body shot, right body shot. If we got comfortable with it, then we’d add a 1-2 combo before the hook’s. One of my favorite exercise drill’s.

By: ShadyEskimo

ShadyEskimo — Thu, 20 Nov 2008 13:56:46 +0000

I always thought the Liver was a little lower, but Good to specify the area. I thought Sato´s knee to Buakaw was a bit high, but now I know it was perfect! Cool Post Nop.

By: Frank

Frank — Thu, 20 Nov 2008 05:51:25 +0000

I really like liver shots. One of my fav combos is cross, left body, right cut.
I’m well versed in anatomy, so I do tend to be a bit of a prick about targeting sensitive spots lol. Liver, solar plexus, kidneys and so on. In the clinch I usually try to open up their right side and work my stronger round knees into the floating ribs/liver margin. I also like to lock off to the side, so you can wrap knees towards the back (kidneys) and the solar plexus on the front.
Left round kicks work great too if they’re timed well. Like shell for a jab/cross, then fire the left round while their cross is still out and take full advantage of their ribs/liver.
Of course, if you want to try and legitimately injure a person (aka be an asshole +++) you can always target the collar bone with sawk tong