Marco Pique vs. Diesel lek Lekrungrungyon
June 30, 2008 by nopstar
Well I finally got to watch the fights… honestly not sure if it was worth the wait. I had to do some seriously scrambling, as the PPV didn’t support macs. I think I’m done bitching about this event; I’m tired of taking up so much MyMuayThai real estate.
Many thanks to MMT friend Richelieu aka Harmon Bakker for the use of his photos.
I don’t have the clip of this, as I don’t feel like getting any more emails about copyright infringement. Whose knows maybe we’ll get a clip sometime?
I know a lot of you were upset with the decision. I’m honestly too tired to go back and try to watch this fight again. I think it’s important to note, that K-1 scoring and Muay Thai scoring are vastly different. For one, pushing the action forward is crucial to scoring in K-1. In Muay Thai it isn’t necessarily the case. If the person is pushing the action are they landing clean shots? Or are they just pushing forward? Are they pushing forward and taking lots of shots?
Diesel lek was clearly fighting with a Muay Thai mindset and strategy. He was comfortable letting Marco push the action; I think Diesel lek did a text a good job landing counter kicks to Marco’s punches. My trainer Neungsiam has the same fighting style as Diesel lek, and he’s recently run into trouble with judges penalizing him for not pushing the action. Also if you listened to the yokel announcers who don’t have a clue, it makes judging even more difficult.
I think we become so accustomed to K-1 scoring we immediately give the aggressor the upper hand. I think if the Souwer vs. Yodsanklai fight was done under Muay Thai rules we would have seen a different outcome.
I don’t think either fighter fought particularly well. If you look at the scoring 49-46 Dej Sriampai is clearly a Thai judge. I would like to think the 3 point spread is because he knows how to score Muay Thai, and not any other reason.
IKF Muay Thai LIGHT Middleweight World Title.
Deiselleck Rungruangyon (Thailand, 154) defeated Marco Pique (Suriname / Holland, 158.5) by unanimous decision, 48-47, 49-46 and 48-47.
REFEREE: Vichai (Rex).
JUDGES: Dan Stell, Dej Sriampai, Jorge Zarate.
This is kind of off topic, but how much do you think Thai’s drop weight for matches (if at all) on average vs. other non-Thai fighters. It seems like (esp here in the States) people try to lose obscene amounts of weight for fights using what seems like unhealthy methods to get into the lower weight classes.
…I just really like eating.
Oh I only asked that because the difference between the two fighters looks to be more than 4 lbs, but that’s just IMO and maybe due to the pictures.
I really like eating too… lol
Usually losing the wieght fast is a method. Another factor is that Thai fighters are usually willing to fight foreigners that are heavier than them. If you look at Saenchai’s fights, all the foreigners he fights are at least 10-15 pounds lighter than him. The Thais want to fight and since they are more experienced they are willing for the other person to have the upper hand in weight
would like to see this fight still.
KRU REX MY TRAINER!!!!! i should be going back soon. to be a sparring punching bag.
I love to eat as well!..funny me and another bud from gym were dscssing this same thing. t Looks like here we cut alot of weight, whereas Thai`s learn to fight closer to their natural weight. Of course we were just speculating, we dont really know…anyone have any insight