Chaiya Kick
September 16, 2009 by nopstar
I think I’d like to have a job where I can travel around and learn different martial arts, this guy Anthony has it pretty good. Here is another clip from Robert Klein of Fight Japan. It’s another clip of them at with Baan Chang Thai, in Bangkok. This clip focuses on the in the MuayChaiya style front leg kick. It’s a pretty interesting kick/technique…
Obviously I don’t agree with Klein’s assessment that the MuayThai lead leg kick is slow or lacks power… he should know better, he’s seen Sanchai do his thing.
“Muay Thai front kick is not very useful”??? Who the F does this guy think he is?? I’m not even gonna get into the fact that none of the Muay Thai kicks shown between 2:04 and 2:46 were actual “Front Leg Low Kicks” so I’m not even sure what the hell he was talkin about to begin with. That video turned me completely off. The Chaiya kicks has its advantages but let’s not go as far as disrespectin’ MT’s kicks. Lame! PEACE!!!
Interesting and some valid points…but I agree that they over-simplify the standard Muay Thai lead low kick. They’re different, no doubt. They each have pro’s and con’s, no doubt. But the video, while interesting, is definitely one-sided.
I don’t know anything about the guy, but it seems like he’s never had his leg crushed then had hard time walking for a week afterwards. Slower, sure… but less force? Not likely.
i can watch antonio get leg kicked allday. interesting how leaning the whole body back adds to the momentum of the blow while defending yourself. awesome awesome martial art that is more useful than pretty looking.
Buakaw’s front kick is very useful. Depends on the opponent.
the step……is optional
NOW WHAT ROBERT KLEIN
I really like Robert’s fight videos, but I have to do disagree with some of them.
I really enjoy stuff like this a lot. Some of Robert’s comments are off-the-mark, but he’s probably just saying that stuff to sell it. Have any of the more experienced guys tried that kick in sparring / fighting? I’d love to hear some feedback on it.
When I first saw the leaning back / turning away, I thought that it might be hard to recover back to stance if you miss or your opponent decides to just eat the kick and come back with a big right hand or something. Still seems like something useful to have in one’s bag-of-tricks. Thoughts?
yeah there are about 5 posts of thoughts above you
SE, I believe he’s asking for thoughts regarding his…thought.
Thats all I was thinking hoyboy, these kicks are all wicked slick and definately pack a punch(…or kick.) but the return to their stance is beginning for a vicious return shot. just watching their sparring and seeing them spin or turn their backs isn’t super convincing.
Watch Anuwat kicking pads, he throws his body back and kinda looks like he restricts his hip movement making his leg a stiff smashing device that is guided by the counterweight his upper body is providing.
i noticed that about anuwat too.
Jake, I’m glad someone sees it too. The way they turn their backs is very pronounced in the demos, and alarm bells went off in my head about turning your back to your opponent. Watching it a again, I noticed that when they’re sparring, they don’t do it as much. Now I’m thinking it might be that they exaggerate the movement for the demo to get the point across.
What I really thought was interesting was the series of blocks to headbutt, standing hammerfists and elbows at about 1:30. Mmmmm… hammerfists…
I’ll go find some Anuwat vids. To be honest, I’ve never really paid a lot of attention to his kicks, I’ve always kept my eyes on the ‘Iron Hands’ waiting for some kind of vicious ownage.
I’ve never had any Muay Chaiya training, but I’ve tried that type of kick in sparring with pretty good success. Like it’s been said above, I didn’t turn as much as they showed in the demos, but the motion was the same. I never thought of it as a power thing but rather a different type of kick to throw when you’re in close and need to evade an oncoming punch while kicking. I think it’s a good technique but I wouldn’t go as far as saying it’s better than the standard muay thai kick. I’ve always been taught there’s subtle differences you can add to your kick to change it’s angle or take off…that’s what I always thought of it as.
MT less powerful..hardly. That neat inside leg slap is great for trauma to the nerves, but i WONT claim superiority. In any case it is not about that. chaiya has many techniques a nak muay can adopt and to be honest, some of these techniques remind me of certain derivations that you see in MT..every camp has its own flavour.
Lets not get drawn into a who`s better debate. Both great arts, we can adopt from both to imrpove our own game
Just watch Anuwat vs Liam Harrison for an example on his low kicks.
ugh, those low kicks are vicious.
what’s up with a senior student tooling on a shinpadded beginner with no shinpads? i approve of the brutality of it but the functionality …destroying someone’s knee joints? hmmmm. that harden those legs up quick but I can’t see (as explained) the sparring going for 30+ mins.
Like you guys have mentioned.. How effective is turning your back while kicking? As a self defense move – horrible. You can easily take the back and go for a choke. .. Total crap about the MT kick.. Very one-sided opinion.
I don’t know about you guys, but those side-kicks are hilarious. How can you see anything when you throw your head back and away? What about a balance? And throwing your leg without even extending it, how can this produce any power? Kicking a target with the outside part of your foot is also not a good idea, you can hurt it more easily. Even worse, they’re comparing it to MT kick and called it slow and weak. And we ALL know that MT kick is considered to be the strongest.
Except for the guy behind this video I guess.
maybe you can use it to some degree if you have the necessary overall skill but I suggest impressing a skilled muay thai fighter with it would not work as promised.
if u noticed chaiya offers a variety of counters for any attack after the chaiya low kick. after recovering from your head being turned away due to the kick you can come back with a variety of elbows, spinning elbows as well. or elbow block then do another kick or another elbow.
i think it’s kinda cool coming back from a kick with a variety of techniques but thats a lonnnnngggg way back the way they whip backwards. not only that but the speed you’re coming back mixed with a fist coming your way…oof.
Nice to see what the lead leg inner thigh kick looked like before in changed to be more ring efficient . In the ring today you don’t turn as much when you throw that kick, Turning that much, that close to the other fighter can be dangrous, you could get caught with your back turned (which is what happens tword the end of the video).
“after recovering from your head being turned away due to the kick you can come back with a variety of elbows, spinning elbows as well”
I agree, this was well demonstrated. But those side-kicks are still really unconvincing to me. Did any of you guys actually use this technique to effect?
thanks, muaythaimex.
no disrespect to the folks in the video, i’m sure they are nice people, but their movements were so awkward and stiff. and sparring looked like beginners’ sparring at any given bs martial arts school here in the states with guys who have been training for 3 months. this kind of style will get you killed in self defense situations, literally!!!