What…? Ok, I’ll save the commentary until after you guys have had a chance to watch the fight. As always thanks to KimJudas for ripping, Nucknick1 for uploading and sharing. Many thanks to Gusnark, for hunting these down and emailing them my way. Enjoy!
So thoughts? I think there was a moment there where he was out on his feet, he didn’t know what was up. Dida just kept hammering with that haymaker and he just kept taking it. It’s like Dida hit the spot in Buakaw’s brain that turned off his kicking ability. Was it me or did it seem as if Buakaw was much easier to hit? I don’t want to take anything away from Dida, I think he performed. Dida’s jab just seemed to connect effortlessly. I’m sure he’s got solid boxing skills, but Buakaw seem content to just keep his chin down and eat some punches.
Maybe Buakaw needs to get his clock cleaned in the early rounds to improve his work rate. I think if Dida hadn’t gassed so soon, Buakaw wouldn’t have found his stride. It always seems like when Buakaw is down and his opponent can pressure him he just ends up head hunting and swinging for the fences. I think because Dida was pretty much through by the 2nd, we got a glimpse of the old Buakaw. The one who would stalk and kick the shit out of his opponents.
I know a lot of you are probably dissapointed with his performance, but It was good to get a glimpse at the old Buakaw we love.
April 22, 2009 at 1:25 am
Buakaw looked like he was on a mission after that first round. I thought he performed well aside from the poor defense in the beginning of the fight. Looks like he could benefit from training a little defense at a boxing gym. Dida didn’t seem to have much to offer besides those hard, looping punches. Still pretty impressive considering he’s an MMA guy though.
April 22, 2009 at 3:53 am
I am in no way disappointed. This was a great fight..my heart sank when that hook connected..I had flashbacks of his last ko..but man thai fighters seem to have one hell of a resolve. I do think he was ko`ed standing..and went on autopilot for much of the 1st round. However the rest of the fight was classic sombat..and he was hungry. I cant beleve Dida did nto do more to capitalize, but then again..Buakkaw has experience and can come back from punishment like that. I did find the lack of kicks noteworthy, but could be Buakkaw wanted to fight inside, probably figured Dida had good outside game (hell he almos got ko`ed form it) so why not try im inside. I think that is the mark of a seasoned fighter, change tactics even when chips are down. He found Didas weakness and went after it.
Man there was quite alot of bodyshots and knees…almost like he wanted to get up close and really do some hurt.
I really enjoyed this, thank you for the upload
April 22, 2009 at 4:02 am
ps..I wonder if he wore that silly Tiger Mask after he lost=)
I must admit it is funny to see some guys come in the ring with plenty of tattos and showmanship and get schooled by a humble no frills fighter who just let his game do the talking.
April 22, 2009 at 6:14 am
here’s his demo with Namsaknoi:
http://fightpassport.com/muay-thai-training-journals/buakaw-vs-namsaknoi/
April 22, 2009 at 9:39 am
When I first watched the first round I thought BPP had been paid to take a dive!!It didnt look that convincing that hed even get hit with a shot like that let alone be really effected by it!But then he really struggled for rest of the round.But then came back and destroyd Dida for the whole rest of the fight, I thought he looked just like the BPP we all love?
The only thing I would say is BPP seems to lack knock out power these days.He’d do himself more favours if he could finish people, not really seen him do that for a while
April 22, 2009 at 10:00 am
oh man after the first round i expected worst…
April 22, 2009 at 10:07 am
I was expectig the worst too, but man, like it has been already said that was like taking a glimpse of the old Buakaw. And looks like he figured out how to use the clinch and the knees in K1 rules, I don’t remember him throwing so much knees since they changed rules!
I’m stocked! Hope this is just the start!
April 22, 2009 at 11:27 am
First of all, it’s always damn exciting but worrying at the same time to watch the fav White Lotus fight these days after the previous knockdowns…
No doubt Mastery level of MT knees and throws used! wow….
but there’s always something with his hands…he is quite used to relaxing his hands at chest level…and also he din reli hide his chin well when he extended both hands to create the distance…I am thinking could it be better if he only wrapped his right hand around his chin and use the lead hand to create the distance?
the period where Dida was throwing punch combos, BPP was taking in so many punches..if these kinda combos were to happen every round, there’s bound to be a lucky one tat will drop BPP again…
anywayz, i am like all of the guys here..hoping BPP can win the 3rd time…and set a distinguished line btw him the other two 2-time champions!
April 22, 2009 at 2:24 pm
Man Buakaw better watch out, Petro and Kyshenko are coming. It pains me to sat this but Buakaw just doesn’t have the hand speed and boxing technique to compete with these guys. Nevertheless, I am still envisioning the reemergence of 2004 BPP. I just think he needs to go out and aim to destroy opponents.
April 22, 2009 at 3:00 pm
This taught me a couple of things about Buakaw. 1) He can’t stand in front of a puncher and allow him to dictate the pace. BPP allowed Dida to punch first and then either stood there and took shots or tried to exchange punches. A big puncher BPP is not. 2) BPP has some heart. The 2, 3 & 4th rounds were pretty much BPP clinics/HL reels. He beat Dida to the punch (bad cliche, to the kick or knee), used body punches and knees well, and finally started mixing his kicks up like the old BPP we all know and love. If he fights HIS game and beats his opponent to the punch/kick, he’s got a great chance to return to glory. If he lets them get off first or lets them dictate the pace, he’s screwed.
April 22, 2009 at 4:20 pm
my two cents: interesting that many buakaw fans (of which i am a huge one) can look at the facts of the issue and look optimistically at his future. before i say anything, i think buakaw has done enough for the sport and has provided us fans with enough memorable moments that he should never be disrespected.
that being said, while i agree buakaw showed big heart to come back from the initial knockdown and dominate the over-matched dida (who fought hard, btw), neither buakaw’s eyes nor heart were in the fight against a fighter that is two classes out of his own. his performance was clearly to avoid embarrassment, and even with the win at the end, his expression was that of utter disappointment. this fight wasn’t a fluke: buakaw’s slowed down a lot. there’s no returning to the past, and this fight was essentially jones vs. tarver I, in which roy squeaked out a victory with a gutsy performance, but was the beginning of the end. like roy as well, buakaw doesn’t have the chin to fight in max now, as he is basically the smallest person there. God forbid petrosyan or kyshenko get their gloves on him – that will not be a pretty sight. but seeing what dida did to him, it may not even take a fighter of that caliber.
i have nothing but respect for the man, but his time is nearly over, imo. when he goes against some of the younger, hungrier guys, it’s going to be bad: very, very bad. i would hate to see him get really busted up.
April 22, 2009 at 6:55 pm
I think that this fight was more BPP’s fight by far. The first round I admit was bad for him because of a single mistake. He neglected to protect himself and he got rocked which threw him off his rythm. After he got back to business he dominated the rest of the match. 3 rounds he Owned Dida .To say that this is the begining of the end could be a bit of an overdrawn statement.
April 22, 2009 at 7:18 pm
Por Pramuk is the shit! Always coming forward, classic. He just needs some of that “Ross” training to get a little stronger.
April 22, 2009 at 7:24 pm
As much as it was nice to see him “be back in form” for the latter rounds, didn’t anybody think Dida backed off a little more than just gassing? And to be fair, Buakaw deserved a second count in the first round. Poor reffing, IMO. Letting somebody continue while being out on their feet is just plain dangerous.
April 22, 2009 at 8:52 pm
My eyes were glued to my 19″ monitor…”Yes!…Buakaw is about to kick this dude’s ass” I thought. Watching the first round ended up being like watching an episode of the Ali G show…It just doesn’t make sense. I caught a chill in the back of my neck, my heart skipped a beat and my jaw hit the floor just a fast as Buakaw did. “What is this the Twilight Zone?” “WTF Sombat!!! Keep ur F-in’ hands up” watchin the rest of the first round was too painful to even describe…I just wish I could grab Adam Sandler’s universal remote and rewind the hands of time…teleport to Por Pramuk and pimp slap whoever told Sombat that it was ok to fight with your hands down to ur chest!
Alas…..as Nopstar mentioned…the old Buakaw re-emerged outta nowhere and even though it wasn’t the classic Buakaw vs Kohi 04 or Buakaw vs Masato 04….it was still a clinic. I loved the hand knee combos…that was new…another thing that I don’t remember ever seeing Buakaw do was that headlock followed with a knee…..it was weird and I wonder if it was legal but oh well…..He won…That’s all I care about.
April 22, 2009 at 8:57 pm
Oh GorillaPalmz…I’m the first to say that everyone has their own opinion and you obviously have your own. I just want you to remember that all it is is your opinion….because the way you wrote your statement almost made is seem as if you could read Buakaw’s mind.
-It looked to me that Buakaw seemed very much in the fight…If he wasn’t i think he woulda stayed down when he got floored.
-”his performance was clearly to avoid embarrassment” How do you figure? please clarify that theory of yours.
-”buakaw doesn’t have the chin to fight in max now,” Is this your professional opinion?
-”God forbid petrosyan or kyshenko get their gloves on him” Are you saying that Buakaw doesnt stand a chance in hell vs them?
-”but seeing what dida did to him, it may not even take a fighter of that caliber.
” Were you only watching the first round? It seems you don’t remember who won the fight.
Hari got beat by a lesser striker (Overeem), Souwer got beat by a lesser striker (Kyshenko), Dekker (kohi), Samkor, JWP and a lot more……it happens to everyone….I see it all the time, I go to a lotta competitions where I see people losing fights vs lesser fighters……All it means is…it just wasn’t their day. Dat’s all. Hope u understand where I’m comin from.
April 22, 2009 at 9:03 pm
Gorillapalmz, I agree with you, but you gotta understand that there’s a type of fan that when their hero wins, only sees the good points and focuses so strongly on these and praises his performance so much they often can’t put things in perspective or see a lot of lesser points in his performance. For instance: the fact that nobody but you said they were afraid what will happen to Buakaw when he faces a top 3 guy (Souwer, Kyshenko, Petrosyan), says enough imo.
And for some guys STILL praying he will regain his 04 form, sorry guys but you can’t see reality, and that reality is that he is moving downhill from now his fight against masato, Sato and now this guy proves it, and his next fight even more. And I don’t see him becoming champion either, he will fight Kyshenko/Souwer if he beats Holzken(wich will be a tough task to begin with) and after that he will face most likely Petrosyan. No way he is going to beat those guys in one night. He might not even have done it in his prime time(his draw against petro in 05, he was in his prime THEN, and petro is much better now)
But this is not intended to be a lecture to you guys:) You might think otherwise but i DO like to see BPP fight very much, and have tons of respect for his skill and heart, but seeing your reactions I just had to put some reality with these comments. The same thing happened last week, when Shogun knocked out chuck Liddell in one round, I was telling his diehard fans the truth, that he was way past it, and they just couldn’t bring themselves to accept it, until the truth painfully appeared to them when Chuck was knocked in limbo
April 22, 2009 at 10:11 pm
hey spydaman. no worries, we all are entitled to our opinions and this is a forum meant to discuss them. =)
Q: ”his performance was clearly to avoid embarrassment” How do you figure? please clarify that theory of yours.
A: the fight was basically matched as a free ticket to the next round. how would he face the japanese or thai public if he was out of the tournament because of a (relative) unknown (no disrespect to dida), especially after his ko loss to sato? buakaw knows his responsibility to the promotion for sure.
Q: ”buakaw doesn’t have the chin to fight in max now,” Is this your professional opinion?
A: not sure how professional it is, but it is my opinion. buakaw never really had to take big shots as he was so slick. when he gets hit square, it’s a problem. to be fair, he is smaller than a lot of the guys in max.
Q: ”God forbid petrosyan or kyshenko get their gloves on him” Are you saying that Buakaw doesnt stand a chance in hell vs them?
A: not at all. what i’m saying is that they are both very strong and accurate with their hands, moreso than dida.
Q: ”but seeing what dida did to him, it may not even take a fighter of that caliber.
” Were you only watching the first round? It seems you don’t remember who won the fight.
A: doesn’t take away from the fact that buakaw was basically out on his feet from a much inferior opponent – he wasn’t just knocked down, he was OUT. a lucky punch is one thing, but buakaw didn’t see any of his punches coming up to that point. maybe he wasn’t warm yet or dida had an awkward rhythm or something happened behind the scenes with weight or sleep – very well could be, it happens. but the fact that a fighter like dida could injure buakaw so severely, together with the ko from sato not too long ago, should be a signal to any rational person of where things are headed.
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stinolatino, i think we’re definitely on the same page. i would hate to see buakaw really get pounded out. losing fights is ok, that’s part of fighting, but to see his head bashed in would really be hard to watch for me. =/
April 22, 2009 at 11:50 pm
GorillaPalmz……First off thank you for clarifying some of your points….I do agree with a lot of them. I do agree that Buakaw does not fight the he used to…but what a lotta people don’t realize is that the main difference between the Buakaw “now” and the Buakaw “of ’04″ is simply his style of fighting (not his age). That same style of fighting that was so absolute that it forced the K1 committee to make news rules that completely hindered him. So No!…..Buakaw is no longer allowed to knee more than once in the clinch!…..No! kicks seems to not score nearly as much as punches! No! “Excessive” Clinching is ultimately frowned upon by the refferees. So I understand why his camp would push to change his style.
In contrast it is also understood that he does have power in his punches which is the main reason why in ’06 he was knockin’ fools outta their socks, but power will only get you so far which is one of the reason why he is now at a standstill. He has power in his hands but doesn’t know how to use his hands as well as other boxers…..and is still he is forced to use his hands because “punches” helps to win K1 fights.
Gladly if u paid attention to the 2nd, 3rd and 4th round……u will have noticed that his fightin’ style was completely different from the style he had adopted the last couple of years ……and if he keeps fighting that same way, he will be a problem for all of those in his way and yes it includes Kyshenko, Souwer and Petrosyan. So in response to Stinolatino….NO! we are not praying he regains his ’04 “form”…..we are prayin he regains his ’04 “fighting style” but since the k1 committee made sure to crush that dream then we hope he will adopt a style closer to his ’04 “fighting style”.
Also, it’s not that we only see the good points of his performance…..it’s that some of you guys already do a great job at pointing the bad points so natural reactions is for us to respond with rebuttals such as “Yes!…u might be right but….”. Besides as GorillaPalmz mentioned….it’s what this website is all about, “differences of opinions”
“the fact that nobody but you said they were afraid what will happen to Buakaw when he faces a top 3 guy (Souwer, Kyshenko, Petrosyan), says enough imo. ” Yes..lmao!….It says that outta all the people who have commented GorillaPalmz and yourself seem to be the only ones afraid of what will happen to him when he faces a top 3 guy……u kno why?….Because to some of us he happens to be one of those “top 3 guys” in the competition.
“The same thing happened last week, when Shogun knocked out chuck Liddell in one round” That statemen is completely irrelevant and unrelated to the subject……Shogun a few years ago was considered the best pound for pound fighter in the world…..Rasha Evans has a MMA record of 13-0 and is a contender for the light heavyweight belt. Keith Jardine is one tough son of a bitch and Quinton Jackson .
Sorry for the long post, fellaz….. :-P
April 23, 2009 at 12:55 am
I nearly cried, actually I did, when Buakaw got knocked down in the first round and then kept getting hit. Well, the rest of the rounds were a relief, but two quick observations:
1. Buakaw NEEDS to finish fights, not wear people down. a) because K-1 fights are short, and b) because there’s only so much damage his own body and brain can take after all these years with the sharks.
2. He seems kind of sad or disconnected with every fight. Anyone else feel that?
Anyone can dominate a gassed out opponent and look great at it, especially someone of Buakaw’s caliber. But he needs to FINISH fast, take the cash and go home.
April 23, 2009 at 3:37 am
Alot of great observations here. This fight sparked a conversation between me and another gy mate about outcome of possible BPP and Yods. Personally I dont ever see that fight happening. But my mate said he had to reconsider BPP as being the loser after seeing his resolve here. I love BPP alot, however the 2 criticisms I have heard here ( his size, and ability to defend and exchange punches with heavy hitters) are 2 huge disadvantages against Yod. Yod is an machine in prime. It would be cool to see Yod on his toes trying to deal wiht BPP`s dynamic style, but BPP dare not leave a crevice open in his guard as Yod needs only one to finish, not pussyfoot around it like some of the others he has fought.
I just think that having seen BPP fall twice to someones quick hands, Yods would be quite the formidable opponent considering his hands are a hallmark part of his arsenal
April 23, 2009 at 4:06 am
Padkeenaw, as much as I hate to say it….I just don’t see Buakaw being able to beat Yod (at least not under k1 rules). I kno k1 rules are biased vs the nakmuay’s style of fighting but it looks like Yod has adapted better than Buakaw has. Yod was always a good puncher…even in his Lumpini days and he got even better throughout the years. However, I don’t think Buakaw really has defense problem vs Boxers…..I mean he’s fough vs the best boxers K1 has to offer and beat them all…..(Masato, Kalakoda, Souwer, Kraus, Zambidis..and a few more)…..I just think that must be something psychological or maybe that Dida’s unorthodox mma style punching just threw him off……lol…..I would go for the latter….Dida did kinda remind me of Dhzabar for a minute….lol.
April 23, 2009 at 8:14 am
You guys might flame me for this, but I think Buakaw only won this fight because of better conditioning. Credit to Buakaw , it takes a super fit guy to take those haymakers in the face and continue fighting another two rounds. Dida was tooling Buakaw in the 1st round, and I think he just punched himself out, leaving nothing for the rest of the fight. Try watching the fight and focusing on Dida instead of Buakaw. It seems by the 2nd round, he just couldn’t throw his fists like he did in the first.
I was really surprised by the 1st round. Dida’s punches looked looping and predictable, and I thought that Buakaw would be able to easily pick him apart with counter punches and kicks/knees. Quite disappointing…
April 23, 2009 at 12:29 pm
Is Buakaw on his way down? I dont think any of us can say, we can argue both for and against, but only time will tell. Buakaws will and determination mixed with all the other factors this World, such as other people, money, and circumstances will be conclusive, and thank Buddha for we will follow The White Lotus fate with great suspence!! And hope for the best, and fear the worst, ONE thing is for sure, This shit aint Booring!!!
April 23, 2009 at 1:21 pm
Oh yeah and I agree with Spydaman on everything :-P
April 23, 2009 at 2:58 pm
Yo Spydaman-
I think the style we seen from him in the last 3 rounds was him pissed and not really caring about the stupid rule change. Its sad that this sport is turning into strictly boxing with leg kicks. They might even banne leg kicks in a few years.lol.
April 23, 2009 at 3:08 pm
I just want to see Buakaw look the oponent the way he looked Kohi when he throwed him. With that attitude, the K1 belt is history :)
April 23, 2009 at 5:21 pm
Maybe so Spydaman, we’ll see how he fares next, if I’m wrong I will be the first to admit it, and with pleasure, not like a lot of the guys who instead of giving props to a fighter’s performance start making a lot of lameass excuses.
But I respect your opinion, one thing I love about this site is that at least this is a forum where people can clash with their opinions with RESPECT, not like “you don’t now shit this, you’re a nuthugger that”:)
That being said, my favourite moment of the fights has to be the knockout of Nagashima, fighting in Max should be about honour and skills, not about dressing like a woman and making an idiot of yourself..
April 23, 2009 at 6:19 pm
I think that some of the guys in k1 are on the juice or they know how to cut weight a lot more efficiently than buakaw for sure.
look at kyshenko he probably walks around at about 175 pounds. His arms are huge.
April 23, 2009 at 6:56 pm
that damn tiger mask still bugs me=) oddly enough it bugs me more than naga`s cross dressing…
probably reminds me of killer clowns=)
April 23, 2009 at 11:06 pm
I agree that Dida should have been an easy opponent for Buakaw. Buakaw should have ruled the whole fight.
With that being said, I’m very impressed by Buakaw chin. Weak chin? The guy was knocked down by a perfect punch and after that took several punches for more than a minute. Dida gassed trying to KO the guy and he not only stayed up but also came back for the 2nd round full of gas.
After that he showed a beatiful style using all the weapons and keeping the pace of the fight. He did open his guard a little bit, but Dida was slowing down already.
April 23, 2009 at 11:09 pm
BTW,
Dida’s corner that Buakaw spoke after the fight is Cosmo Alexandre, another Brazilian Nak Muay that hopefully will have a chance in K1.
He much more complete and stronger than Dida, trained and fought in Thailand for more than a year. Tuff guy …
April 23, 2009 at 11:22 pm
Greghow….I think the reason why Buakaw won is a mixture of him dramatically switching his style round 2-4…….Dida running outta gas round 3 & 4. I think the reason almost knocked Buakaw out in the first round was because of his MMA striking style who surprised Buakaw and took him outta his game for a while. I go through the same thing at my gym when sparring with some of the mma guys.
ShadyEskimo….Right on!
Easy B….”I think the style we seen from him in the last 3 rounds was him pissed and not really caring about the stupid rule change.” those were my thoughts exactly while watching it. If Sato could get away with throwing multiple knees in the clinch….I don’t see why Buakaw couldn’t….lol.
mmcmx….lmao
Chokdee, Kyshenko does look like a freakin’ beast…..lookin like a kickboxing “He-Man”…Im just waiting for that green tiger to come outta nowhere…lol.
Stinolatino……U DON”T KNOW SHIT!!!!!……………..sike!….lol….considering the nature of our discussion, I don’t think neither one of us can be proven wrong or right….it’s just a matter of opinion….and I definitely respect your opinion….(I just don’t agree wit them….heheheeheheh)….K!…lemme stop bustin’ ur balls. As far as Nagashima, I guess the Japanese audience likes this types of thing because I don’t think that kinda behavior would be tolerated in certain other countries….but then again…it might just bring the ratings higher, who knows. Kraus sure had some things to say about Nagashima though…..I don’t think he’s too keen on man wearing dresses.
April 24, 2009 at 2:58 am
To me Buakaw looked hungry at the end, like yeah yeah lets get to the finals already, I thought he had a great performance, first round he felt dida out, and by the second he had him figured out and dominated the rest of the fight, what more can you ask for???
April 24, 2009 at 11:07 am
com’on GorillaPalmz, BPP obviously has solid chin…the plain fact that he recovered so quickly during the first round…
taking so many punches in the first round would probably drop a fighter in the first round if he hasn’t a solid chin..I don’t tink the problem lies in his chin..the problem lies in the dodging part where he is so used to tilting his head without adding his arms to protect his chin…
April 24, 2009 at 11:16 am
spydaman, I agree totally with your point on Yod vs BPP..but that would be on the fact that Yod reli has tighter guard, and great precision & strength in his hands…I dunno if any of you guys do notice tis kinda thing: buakaw’s fighting stance is too flat and less guarding…if you compare his with yod, u would know what i mean…yod is more sideway(more room to escape back) and his lead hand is always guarding before his head.. juz my opinion…nothing pro here..
April 24, 2009 at 4:19 pm
i think yod has a hybrid stance between the shooto box style and the tradition muay thai stance, where as buakaws stance is striaght traditional muay thai. but stance is no reason not to have a better defensive game
April 24, 2009 at 4:44 pm
C2h25….I agree…but that’s because Buakaw has a pure Muay Thai stance as i always wondered about Yod’s stance. To me it looks more kickboxing than anythin…..outta all the pure NakMuays I have followed or watched I can’t say I have ever seen anyone standing with a similar side stance like Yod. Most people I have seen fight squared…and that’s how I have been taught. Yod’s stance kinda remind me of a boxer’s stance mixed with a karate (I almost expect him to come out with a sidekick sometimes….lol). Defensively it seems beneficial to him….Also, he seems to put more weight on his back leg than most. which makes it easier to dodge, lean back, retreat….but he someone has mastered it so tha he’s still able to bully his opponent…….sorry guys for wanderin outta the realms of this forum…..just an observation.
April 24, 2009 at 5:21 pm
spydaman, some fighters who have that type of stance, attachi fairtex, kem fairtex, kaew fairtex, anuwat, bovy, saenchai. There all at different levels of the shooto box-thai stance spectrum, but these fighters stand in a way that sets them apart from fighters who employ a traditional thai box, such as singdam and buakaw. (TOO LAZY TO EXPLAIN THE REST -DO YOU AGREE OR DISAGREE?
April 24, 2009 at 5:32 pm
OR DO YOU SUSPEND JUDGEMENT?
April 24, 2009 at 9:13 pm
I completely agree that there are lotsa fighters who don’t use the “traditional” muay thai stance…..I definitely wasn’t arguing your point. I’ll be the first to tell u that fighters like Seanchai, Attachai, Wanlop and others….have their own stance……ur stance sometimes also differs from which weapons u use most too
…that’s why a lotta time u can tell a puncher apart from a kicker…apart from Knee-er (?)….lol. I agree.
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April 24, 2009 at 9:15 pm
oh…I don’t think those fighters u mentioned have the same type of stance as Yodseanklai….well….Attachai might be the closest one.
April 25, 2009 at 5:02 am
Ah that was exactly what I was thinking, but what about this shoot box stance? I can’t get my head around the amount k-1 kickboxers and # fairtex fighter who thrive on this stance. which do you think is better is a better way to stand?
April 25, 2009 at 5:27 am
agree wif spydaman…Attachai does have the closest stance as Yod.. In my opinion, next time if you go training or wat, maybe you could try out..the yod stance is good for punches…but it would be rather weak to roundhouse with the lead leg…i guess tat’s why yod seldom does that… the buakaw’s stance that i mentioned is good for ppl who are good with both legs…and also nak muays who can elbows and clinch effectively…and when one has enough of getting punched, it’s easier to go for a clinch…(not applicable to K1)
I juz think that fundamentals like fighting stance do affect how one fights..natemuaythaimaster, i guess the more obvious thing to compare is how yod create the distance with one hand(lead) and how buakaw creates distance with both hands…tat’s why in my opinion, it would be more defensive with one hand out and the other hand still doing some guarding…when both hands are out, at least the arms should be blocking the chin from hooks…
April 25, 2009 at 5:34 am
to add on..i don’t think there’s a perfect stance to use..it depends on individual…but traditional MT stance will most prob has disadvantage becoz of the K1 rules out to prevent nakmuays from dominating with clinches and knees… also, I don’t reli think buakaw has slackened or watsoever coz if you look back at his old fighting vids(k1), he is not really a punching kind of fighter…most of the time he moved to the blindspot to clinch when his opp threw hands combo…
April 25, 2009 at 3:55 pm
hi read all the comments and alot of good stuff said. However, i think a few ppl are still not really seeing or not willing to see past their own
czh25, i agree with everything you have said regarding stance and fighting style esp that bit about yod’s stance and his never using the lead leg in a fight. To add to this I think I’ve seen yod use the lead leg in training but switches stance to use it.
re bpp I again agree with czh25 again that bpp was never a real punching or boxing type of fighter. Getting hit full on by his punches probably will produce a knockdown and as we have seen in the past a few KO but once opponents are use to his vulnerabilities and if he doesn’t keep them honest with a knee here and there and some varied kicks he cannot get clean punches of his own off as much as he use to… his defense of punches is not up at the level of Souwer, Masato, Kyshenko and Giorgio since he no longer can clinch and knee relying to keep opponents honest. In fact everyone should be able to see from this fight that if they simply allow him to clinch and perform multiple knees like before the rule change he probably would still beat many of the top max guys handily. To me it looks like once he cleared his head and actually listened to his trainers to use knees he started to make Dida ineffective. Perhaps DIDA did start to gas… getting kneed many times while throwing those haymakers gotta be much more tiring than throwing them without getting kneed??? LOL
re BPP chin: unless you telling my DIDA punches like a girl i can not believe that anyone dispute BPP having a great chin!! How many fighters can get slugged that directly that many time and still stand after coping a knockdown punch? Fact that the other fighters like souwer etc are not getting knockdown as much isn’t so much just a chin factor but more so cos they defend punches much better than bpp and dont subsequently get tagged so hard so much.
Since the rule change BPP hasnt ever gone more than 1 knee in the clinch but in this fight he has clinched and knee twice on more than 1 occassion… personally i think why not, since Sato and Andy loves doing that. Esp Andy and his kneeing to opponents legs and when they are down… umm
April 25, 2009 at 6:30 pm
At the end of the second round, when they fell down together, BPP was out again. He got clipped and then fell but took Dida down with him.
I think he may have lost his iron chin, same as Masato, but he hasn’t completely lost his will to win.
April 25, 2009 at 7:55 pm
yup…agree with treeman..clear the hand obstacle and BPP can dominate again…
anyway,(deviating from the discussion…) i am wondering how exciting would it be if petrosyan can meet up with BPP this year for a rematch…I think petrosyan is really in a very good form now…
April 25, 2009 at 9:46 pm
By far this is one of the most popular posts in MMT. I remember the post titled ” i forgot ” but it had something to do with sparring… The Assholes, The …., and The something.
I love Buakaw, I think he realizes he has to get back to his old form or atleast attempt. -
For the one who said Buakaw would not be able to compete against Kyshenko, Petrosyan, and Holtzen in one night is wrong. Well, it is right if everyone of those 3 were fresh to start, but they will be tired from their own match as well.. Buakaw will be the only 3 time champion of MAX – EVER. ( that’s a bold statement huh? )
April 26, 2009 at 3:46 pm
Nathan Wade Willet
Buakaw didnt get clipped, Dida tackeled Buakaw MMA style, Nothing contacted Buakaws Chin on that particular occasion. Watch it again.
April 26, 2009 at 6:48 pm
You can see his hair shake right when that haymaker goes past his face. You can even hear the connection since the gloves are mic’ed.
April 27, 2009 at 2:32 am
Buakaw got one of the easiest opponents to advance to final 8. And I never saw him struggle so much, he really wanted to KO Dida, but couldn’t even pull a KD. His guard was weak. Just marching forward and absorbing those punches… Dida shook his head like 10 times, luckily Buakaw has really solid chin. Dida is not even a good boxer. Buakaw has such a powerful low-kicks and I’ve seen only like 10 of them and he was fighting an MMA fighter who’s not even on the top. Nice game-plan.
Ok, he survived the 1st round and managed to beat Dida, but how the hell will he pass Souwer, Kraus, Kyshenko or Petrosyan? They’re not MMA fighters, they’re top K-1 fighters. I wonder.
April 28, 2009 at 9:16 am
Treeman….it’s funny but if u read my comments on this thread you are basically reiterating everything I have been sayin about Buakaw so needless to say I agree. Gusnark…to be fair..Buakaw only struggled for one round….lol….I do agree that his guard was very weak! “how the hell will he pass Souwer, Kraus, Kyshenko or Petrosyan?” VERY CAREFULLY!!!!…..hehehehe!