This fight is a couple of months old, but I’m fairly certain most of you haven’t seen it. Whenever I get a chance to get home, I typically get a couple of sessions in at the Ingram Gym in Bangkok.
I first heard of Ingram, because they were the crew who first brought Buakaw into K-1 Max. My current trainer Neungsiam was a trainer there after he parted ways with Fairtex. Their a solid bunch… One of the fighters who’ve I’ve gotten to know is Ali.
I wrote a post a couple of months back about my first time in the fighter’s area at Rajadomnern stadium. The fighter I was accompanying was Ali, a truly memorable experience.
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This was Ali’s first foray into Japan. I’m not that familiar with the rules of Shooto. I’m pretty sure elbows aren’t allowed, but I wasn’t aware that you could choke a bitch out. Anybody have any experience with Shoot Boxing? Many thanks to Yappakoredesho for the upload!
14 responses so far ↓
1 M!ke // Aug 30, 2007 at 1:35 am
Hey thanks for posting this page it brings back memories. I learnt the basics of muay thai at Ingram because it was a stone throw away from my house. At first I was quite intimidated by how many Japanese were there and i always remember Dawsaming laughing about how unco i am. But it was all good. I didn’t see Ali there tho. Cheers bro
2 Seb // Aug 30, 2007 at 5:19 am
you can do standing submission in shootboxing
and throw count too (only when the opponent is throwed over the waistline)
3 Hannes // Aug 30, 2007 at 5:26 am
Shooto and Shoot Boxing differs from each other. In Shoot Boxing, only standing submissions is allowed while Shooto has similair rules as most other MMA organisations.
4 Suli // Aug 30, 2007 at 7:21 am
Thats the man right there when i was at Ingram he was there real nice guy one of the coolest guys i ever met. There was a rumor that he left Ingram GYM maybe a few months back? Did he come back?
5 Suli // Aug 30, 2007 at 8:06 am
NOP??
6 Khannie // Aug 30, 2007 at 8:43 am
Decent fight. He (Ali) could do with some boxing training. He has a very heavy reliance on kicks (at least in that fight).
7 Kote Law Loi // Aug 30, 2007 at 8:33 pm
Oh shit!!!That’s that cousin in the yippon’s corner. The joke that sombat knocked out in the first round with that hook after he threw that uhhh gun caugh chai mai??…what’s his name….????…..SHISHIDO!!!!!! Tha Lokk!!!! He dropped so fast ahahaha. Nice fight but Ali is obviously supeior.
8 Tong Po // Aug 31, 2007 at 1:20 pm
Good fight. I’m not all that familiar with the rules either, but the fight was exciting!
9 Joe // Aug 31, 2007 at 7:12 pm
Ali from Ingram Gym?
I think he is a muslim Thai. Probably comes from southern provinces in Thailand.
However, on his fight against the Japanese, it appears he is good with his skills.
Well, he may not use his punches a lot, however it’s common for Thais to use their legs all the time, even when counterattacking.
The exception may be well known punchers such as Anuwat Kaewsamrit or Yodsankhlai Fairtex.
10 The other JOE // Aug 31, 2007 at 11:28 pm
What’s the deal with those tights that the shoot boxers wear?
11 Kamatari // Sep 1, 2007 at 2:38 am
THE other JOE, they were oldchool Shooto pants. Shootboxing is directly derived from Shooto, but the are no ground aspects to the fighting. It’s much closer to MT like the rest of the Japanese kicke events are. And another reason to dislike K-1.
Expert rules allow elbows as well.
Ali’s opponent Takeshi Ishikawa is a very good fighter. He knocked out opponents with takedowns before and put them to sleep with standing chokes. He’s usually fun to watch.
12 Kamatari // Sep 1, 2007 at 2:42 am
Oh and nopstar, you might want to check out the Makoto Oe/Takashi Abe and Makoto Abe/Hiromu Yoshitaka bouts I uploaded on my YouTube channel. Two of the best Shootboxing bouts ever.
Oe after he quit Shootboxing started training in Thailand and became very influeced by Muay Thai. Those two fights were after he made his return as a UWF-i representative.
Hiromu Yoshitaka was the first Shootboxing S-Cup champion.
13 nopstar // Sep 1, 2007 at 9:07 am
Kamatari-
Thanks for the heads up… Oe’s shorts may qualify for the worst MT shorts ever… Oe’s corner is also speaking to him in Thai, good stuff.
14 Idetrorce // Dec 15, 2007 at 7:24 am
very interesting, but I don’t agree with you
Idetrorce
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